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	<title>Comments on: I Don&#8217;t Mean To Be Negative But&#8230;.</title>
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		<title>By: Dreamer</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/i-dont-mean-to-be-negative-but/2009/03/10/comment-page-1/#comment-23747</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, your comments are so spot on, it&#039;s not funny. Your comment that something else is going on below the surface is astute.

The issue was not with lack of sales. The Macs were flying out the door, despite the &#039;Global Economic Crisis.&#039; 
In tight times, people still spend money, they look for better value, and Apple products deliver

The issue lies in the Grant Bremner is a con man, full stop. His lines about tough economic times are a conveinient cover for his dodgey business practices. He is quoted as saying that staff are his most valuable asset. Yet since he closed the doors, not only has he not paid anyone, he has not bothered to contact any of them. Not an email, phone call, nothing.

The whole Bay saga is a slimy affair that goes much deeper than anyone knows. What annoys us the most, is this constant dribble about the financial crisis being the cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, your comments are so spot on, it&#8217;s not funny. Your comment that something else is going on below the surface is astute.</p>
<p>The issue was not with lack of sales. The Macs were flying out the door, despite the &#8216;Global Economic Crisis.&#8217;<br />
In tight times, people still spend money, they look for better value, and Apple products deliver</p>
<p>The issue lies in the Grant Bremner is a con man, full stop. His lines about tough economic times are a conveinient cover for his dodgey business practices. He is quoted as saying that staff are his most valuable asset. Yet since he closed the doors, not only has he not paid anyone, he has not bothered to contact any of them. Not an email, phone call, nothing.</p>
<p>The whole Bay saga is a slimy affair that goes much deeper than anyone knows. What annoys us the most, is this constant dribble about the financial crisis being the cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Chui</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/i-dont-mean-to-be-negative-but/2009/03/10/comment-page-1/#comment-21093</link>
		<dc:creator>Chui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Ben&#039;s analysis is spot on. Retailing a commodity item on high-margins in a time when buyers are value-conscious is not a viable business proposition. 

It is not that people will stop buying Macs. But rather people would use their time to shop around instead.

A in-home-cinema vendor in my town says that he couldn&#039;t compete on price with the big box vendors, but he points to the missing demo TV on his shelf, and said that the higher margins allow him to supply his customers with a back up TV when theirs is in the repair shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Ben&#8217;s analysis is spot on. Retailing a commodity item on high-margins in a time when buyers are value-conscious is not a viable business proposition. </p>
<p>It is not that people will stop buying Macs. But rather people would use their time to shop around instead.</p>
<p>A in-home-cinema vendor in my town says that he couldn&#8217;t compete on price with the big box vendors, but he points to the missing demo TV on his shelf, and said that the higher margins allow him to supply his customers with a back up TV when theirs is in the repair shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Lehmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Lehmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with M Freitas. Point in case is I can by 5 Dell mini Netbooks for 5 staff as work/play takehomes or else buy just one Mac laptop. Apple is very premium in a very weak economy. Not a good position to in for any product, software vs saas incuded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with M Freitas. Point in case is I can by 5 Dell mini Netbooks for 5 staff as work/play takehomes or else buy just one Mac laptop. Apple is very premium in a very weak economy. Not a good position to in for any product, software vs saas incuded.</p>
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		<title>By: M Freitas</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/i-dont-mean-to-be-negative-but/2009/03/10/comment-page-1/#comment-20041</link>
		<dc:creator>M Freitas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote this on Twitter and of course the Apple folks there didn&#039;t like it but...

It&#039;s a very expensive hardware on offer, and we are living in very hard and tight times. 

That&#039;s it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote this on Twitter and of course the Apple folks there didn&#8217;t like it but&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very expensive hardware on offer, and we are living in very hard and tight times. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Spence</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/i-dont-mean-to-be-negative-but/2009/03/10/comment-page-1/#comment-20038</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like it will be missed one or two other prominent people too:

http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=2513

...but that doesn&#039;t excuse the store from good business practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like it will be missed one or two other prominent people too:</p>
<p><a href="http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=2513" rel="nofollow">http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=2513</a></p>
<p>&#8230;but that doesn&#8217;t excuse the store from good business practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From personal experience I love the guys at the Bay store and will be sad to see it closed, however I still didn&#039;t spend any money with them, being cost concious I just couldn&#039;t bring myself to pay a premium for the stuff that I wanted (such as extra memory, faster hard drive for my Mac) when it&#039;s available elsewhere for significatly cheaper.

I appreciate I might not be the market they&#039;re after but the Apple stores in London or elsewhere always seemed to have a very busy vibe, with a lot of non apple products as well as the core apple line. I don&#039;t think they stocked enough of the hard to get, non apple products, such as bags, ipod accessories etc. 

Will be sad to see them close though as they were genuinly nice staff..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From personal experience I love the guys at the Bay store and will be sad to see it closed, however I still didn&#8217;t spend any money with them, being cost concious I just couldn&#8217;t bring myself to pay a premium for the stuff that I wanted (such as extra memory, faster hard drive for my Mac) when it&#8217;s available elsewhere for significatly cheaper.</p>
<p>I appreciate I might not be the market they&#8217;re after but the Apple stores in London or elsewhere always seemed to have a very busy vibe, with a lot of non apple products as well as the core apple line. I don&#8217;t think they stocked enough of the hard to get, non apple products, such as bags, ipod accessories etc. </p>
<p>Will be sad to see them close though as they were genuinly nice staff..</p>
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