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		<title>By: raf</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/the-story-of-stuff/2008/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the kazzoom-brookes postulate springs to mind here.....we wlive in a world of infinite possibilities constrained only by our imagination - our ability to transform energy and matter and of the ecosystem to absorb the outcome.

the only problem now is we don&#039;t measure that relationship..so really we don&#039;t know the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the kazzoom-brookes postulate springs to mind here&#8230;..we wlive in a world of infinite possibilities constrained only by our imagination &#8211; our ability to transform energy and matter and of the ecosystem to absorb the outcome.</p>
<p>the only problem now is we don&#8217;t measure that relationship..so really we don&#8217;t know the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamesey</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/the-story-of-stuff/2008/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamesey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries Ben. 

All good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries Ben. </p>
<p>All good.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kepes</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/the-story-of-stuff/2008/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Kepes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Done Jamesy - not sure what happended there - sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Done Jamesy &#8211; not sure what happended there &#8211; sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Jamesey</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/the-story-of-stuff/2008/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamesey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you please upload my earlier post Ben?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please upload my earlier post Ben?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Jamesey</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/the-story-of-stuff/2008/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamesey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ben,

I aired by concerns in a comment on the, Reacting to the trend towards Free, topic where I criticised the conventional (and flawed) business model, which encourages a throwaway culture through planned obsolescence and as you mentioned and perceived obsolescence (incremental innovation) in a bid to maintain their revenues. 

I personally believe that the concerns of the people behind The Story of Stuff are warranted as the Industrial Era economic model has done enormous damage to the natural environment,but it cannot last much longer, especially as more people in the Third World begin to demand the sorts of lifestyles that those of us in the West have become accustomed to, but thankfully there are alternatives.

There has been much research done that contends that ICT industry has tremendous potential to reduce the negative impact that we have on the environment. One of is here.
http://www.aci-citizenresearch.org/Final%20Green%20Benefits.pdf

I think that geeks (who are now the technology trendsetters) are not necessarily uncaring about the impact that they have on the environment, but they are both unaware of how large their impact is and perceive that it is possible to reconcile their concern for the environment with their desire for the latest and greatest technology. 

I personally blame the myopia and lack of imagination of the corporate bosses for this sad state of affairs, but thankfully I believe that in the near future we will witness a paradigm shift from the outdated Industrial Economy where passive consumption is the norm to a far more participatory Information Economy where the line between producers and consumers becomes very vague, which is exemplifed by Eric von Hippel&#039;s Democratizing Innovation and the work of Michel Bauwens at the Foundation for P2P alternatives.

http://www.ideaconnection.com/articles/00010-Democratizing-Innovation-The-Shift-of-Innovation.html

http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Main_Page

I think one company that is on the right track, is Nokia, with their Eco Sensor concept, which combined with an open access mobile network like Verizon&#039;s, could be the trendsetting product that leads the way for the rest of the industry in reducing the harm that electronic goods does to the environment and services envisioned by Dana Blankenhorn in his Always On technology proposition.
http://www.nokia.com/A4707477

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071127-verizon-opens-up-will-support-any-device-any-app-on-its-network.html

http://www.danablankenhorn.com/alwayson/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben,</p>
<p>I aired by concerns in a comment on the, Reacting to the trend towards Free, topic where I criticised the conventional (and flawed) business model, which encourages a throwaway culture through planned obsolescence and as you mentioned and perceived obsolescence (incremental innovation) in a bid to maintain their revenues. </p>
<p>I personally believe that the concerns of the people behind The Story of Stuff are warranted as the Industrial Era economic model has done enormous damage to the natural environment,but it cannot last much longer, especially as more people in the Third World begin to demand the sorts of lifestyles that those of us in the West have become accustomed to, but thankfully there are alternatives.</p>
<p>There has been much research done that contends that ICT industry has tremendous potential to reduce the negative impact that we have on the environment. One of is here.<br />
<a href="http://www.aci-citizenresearch.org/Final%20Green%20Benefits.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aci-citizenresearch.org/Final%20Green%20Benefits.pdf</a></p>
<p>I think that geeks (who are now the technology trendsetters) are not necessarily uncaring about the impact that they have on the environment, but they are both unaware of how large their impact is and perceive that it is possible to reconcile their concern for the environment with their desire for the latest and greatest technology. </p>
<p>I personally blame the myopia and lack of imagination of the corporate bosses for this sad state of affairs, but thankfully I believe that in the near future we will witness a paradigm shift from the outdated Industrial Economy where passive consumption is the norm to a far more participatory Information Economy where the line between producers and consumers becomes very vague, which is exemplifed by Eric von Hippel&#8217;s Democratizing Innovation and the work of Michel Bauwens at the Foundation for P2P alternatives.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ideaconnection.com/articles/00010-Democratizing-Innovation-The-Shift-of-Innovation.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ideaconnection.com/articles/00010-Democratizing-Innovation-The-Shift-of-Innovation.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Main_Page</a></p>
<p>I think one company that is on the right track, is Nokia, with their Eco Sensor concept, which combined with an open access mobile network like Verizon&#8217;s, could be the trendsetting product that leads the way for the rest of the industry in reducing the harm that electronic goods does to the environment and services envisioned by Dana Blankenhorn in his Always On technology proposition.<br />
<a href="http://www.nokia.com/A4707477" rel="nofollow">http://www.nokia.com/A4707477</a></p>
<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071127-verizon-opens-up-will-support-any-device-any-app-on-its-network.html" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071127-verizon-opens-up-will-support-any-device-any-app-on-its-network.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.danablankenhorn.com/alwayson/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.danablankenhorn.com/alwayson/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Falafulu Fisi</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/the-story-of-stuff/2008/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>Falafulu Fisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, first she is inconsistent about what&#039;s she preaching about. She has 2 shirts (a gray T-shirt , ie, first layer of clothing and a blue shirt on top of that). Why is she having 2 layers instead of 1 ?

I can&#039;t stand all these greenie lunatics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, first she is inconsistent about what&#8217;s she preaching about. She has 2 shirts (a gray T-shirt , ie, first layer of clothing and a blue shirt on top of that). Why is she having 2 layers instead of 1 ?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t stand all these greenie lunatics.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaila Colbin</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/the-story-of-stuff/2008/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-997</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaila Colbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great movie, well worth the watch! The message I got from it isn&#039;t that tech is a problem, or that clothes or iPods are; it was that the paradigm is the problem. The disposability is the problem. The lack of awareness of the true cost of our lifestyles (and Raf Manji would have a lot more to say on this point thanks to his experience with TruCost) is the problem.

Thanks for sharing :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great movie, well worth the watch! The message I got from it isn&#8217;t that tech is a problem, or that clothes or iPods are; it was that the paradigm is the problem. The disposability is the problem. The lack of awareness of the true cost of our lifestyles (and Raf Manji would have a lot more to say on this point thanks to his experience with TruCost) is the problem.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing <img src='http://diversitynet.zippykidcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Christian Fauré</title>
		<link>http://www.diversity.net.nz/the-story-of-stuff/2008/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Fauré</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site is quite well done, and interesting.
So thanks for the link, even if it&#039;s not related to SaaS :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site is quite well done, and interesting.<br />
So thanks for the link, even if it&#8217;s not related to SaaS <img src='http://diversitynet.zippykidcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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